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Ok so I really want to get a pickup for my masterbilt. I am really partial to blender systems because they compensate for the other pickups weakness.
I really like these 2.
What do you guys think?
any other pickups out there that rock?

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I'm anxious to hear the responses. I've got two guitars I want to put pup's in: my son's Morgan Monroe MV-01 and my Johnson JO-27. I've been leaning toward a K&K Pure Western or Pure Western Mini based on previous threads, so it will be interesting to see what people have to say this time around.

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The K&K looks cool, but they are kind of pricey and I am worried about feedback. Plus I like the sound of a magnetic pickup, especially since I like to use effects.

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I had a trilogy....and hated it.
It was the first pup fitted into my J185.
The mic was woofy and lame, and it points at the back of the guitar, in my maple backed 185 it just got low end woof and no actual notes or anything useful at all.
The Magnet....well I think it's passive, even though the UST was hot as hell, the mag was really quiet, and if I rolled it in with the UST it wasn't even noticeable.
The UST quacked like hell and;
You couldn't bring the mic in to help it, cos it was lame.
You couldn't get any mag sound in the mix with the ust even halfway up.
So you have, a UST, that quacks worse than any other UST I ever had.
IMO....POS, especially compared to stuff I've had since.

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My Yamaha L series has a B-Band. I like it, but it's the only Acoustic Electric I have, so I can't compare it to anything. :idk:

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I had a trilogy....and hated it.
It was the first pup fitted into my J185.
The mic was woofy and lame, and it points at the back of the guitar, in my maple backed 185 it just got low end woof and no actual notes or anything useful at all.
The Magnet....well I think it's passive, even though the UST was hot as hell, the mag was really quiet, and if I rolled it in with the UST it wasn't even noticeable.
The UST quacked like hell and;
You couldn't bring the mic in to help it, cos it was lame.
You couldn't get any mag sound in the mix with the ust even halfway up.
So you have, a UST, that quacks worse than any other UST I ever had.
IMO....POS, especially compared to stuff I've had since. wow, i almost bought it. Thanks for the warning, if it was low and woofy in a J185 i cant imagine my 12 fret. (its bassier than a bass guitar). :freak:
Hmm, well eff. any more ideas anyone?

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A couple of points:
1) A dual source setup can have any choice from 4 types - UST, SBT, mag and microphone.
2) Some manufacturers sell dual source setups which usually include more than just the passive pickups. Some folks build a dual source system with components from several manufacturers.
3) The better dual source setups (regardless of which source transducers are used) have separate gain and separate eq prior to any blending of the two sources.
4) Which combination of sources will work best for you depends on many things and its a good idea to fully vet these issues before purchase.

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Just to let you know I am a big strumming flatpicker, I like to do lead and strummage. Not too much fingerpicking.

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Baggs M-1 active is my reccomendation to you!

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K&K Pure Western and Baggs M1 are the usual contenders. I'd recommend the Fishman Rare Earth Blend or Seymour Duncan Mag Mic but both are out of your price range.

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My Masterbilt has the LR Baggs electronics in it and I am so glad it does. The sound is fantastic! I do believe that they are the most natural sounding acoustic pickup systems that you can get. It's as though you mounted a microphone inside the guitar.

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I agree with masterbuilt.It's as basic as it gets but you get the same great sound as without and no extra holes in the git.Just a little volume "wheel" in the soundhole.I had a B band that came with my Cumberland.It was pretty good but the vol control did nothing untill it was turned up at least half way.I've heard the same complaint from others with the B band.

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My Epi AJ500RE came with a Baggs Element installed. It sounded incredible - easily as good as the M1 to my ears.

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Just to let you know I am a big strumming flatpicker, I like to do lead and strummage. Not too much fingerpicking. In a band? What other instruments? Using a PA system? Type of venues?
You might want to check out the following pickup comparison site:

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I'm anxious to hear the responses. I've got two guitars I want to put pup's in: my son's Morgan Monroe MV-01 and my Johnson JO-27. I've been leaning toward a K&K Pure Western or Pure Western Mini based on previous threads, so it will be interesting to see what people have to say this time around. The K&K looks cool, but they are kind of pricey and I am worried about feedback. Plus I like the sound of a magnetic pickup, especially since I like to use effects. I have a K&K Pure Western Standard on my D12X1 and I love it. I play many different styles on that git, from easygoing fingerpicking to "tear-off-the-strings" flatpicking. Sounds good no matter how I play the git.
However, a peek inside the git and a quick measurement of the bridge plate forward (towards the neck) of the pin holes is in order if you're going to think about using the Standard. The instructions say to not let the transducer button hang off the plate more than 1/16" or 1/8". (Sorry, now can't remember exactly which measurement). Additionally, there might be a top brace in right next to the plate.
It goes without saying that you need a little room in front of the pin holes for the string balls, too.
At any rate, the transducer buttons on the Mini are smaller than those of the Standard, so almost any bridge plate will have enough room for correct installation.
Given that the buttons of the Standard came mighty close to being too big for the bit Martie, I'm definitely getting the Mini for my new Guild.
One other thing.....
Once you do the installation, make sure you secure the excess wire with a small tie or some tape or whatever. I neglected to do that at first and a flopping wire or two created an annoying buzz by vibrating against the top of the git. Drove me bonkers until I figured out what was going on. Duh.:freak:
Just my .02

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+1 on the baggs......I have been experimenting with an H4 I picked up, and I'm recording directly into it using a 1/4" standard jack. It reproduces the sound nearly flawlessly. Mine is an older model, no battery, passive with no volume control, and it needs a little help going to an amp. I have used a "FAB" chorus switch to boost its output.
What I like most about the Baggs is the individual pole control for each string.

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Well thanks for all the recommendations.
To answer a few questions, the largest venue that I play regularly is large coffee houses. But that doesn't mean I wont be playing larger gigs sometime down the road.
I am not in a band unfortunately, I would love to but all the musicians I know either suck or I cant get along with.
I have a little PA that i play by myself sometimes, but usually I will just use the house system. Though I think I need to use it all the time now. My guitar is so loud that I cant hear myself sing, I need to start using a mic all the time!
I am surprised a little by all the support for the LR Baggs, it seems everyone likes the m1 and the ibeam.
So I really like both of them. How does the Ibeam do for feedback? I hate feedback with a passion so I am not a fan.
I also read that you can install a soundhole pickup with the ibeam.
So I think that would be cool to order the ibeam and then wire in a magnetic pup.
Sound good?

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Baggs M-1 active is my reccomendation to you! +1
I recently installed one of these in my Guild GAD-50 and it sounds terrific.

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Curious, does the M1 Active come with wiring and hardware to mount a jack at the endpin? If so, can it still be moved to another guitar and use the "external" cable?

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Well thanks for all the recommendations.
To answer a few questions, the largest venue that I play regularly is large coffee houses. But that doesn't mean I wont be playing larger gigs sometime down the road.
I am not in a band unfortunately, I would love to but all the musicians I know either suck or I cant get along with.
I have a little PA that i play by myself sometimes, but usually I will just use the house system. Though I think I need to use it all the time now. My guitar is so loud that I cant hear myself sing, I need to start using a mic all the time!
I am surprised a little by all the support for the LR Baggs, it seems everyone likes the m1 and the ibeam.
So I really like both of them. How does the Ibeam do for feedback? I hate feedback with a passion so I am not a fan.
I also read that you can install a soundhole pickup with the ibeam.
So I think that would be cool to order the ibeam and then wire in a magnetic pup.
Sound good? A SBT/mag combination is nice, but so are other combinations. The SBT/mag combo is a bit redundant, has medium feedback resistance (although that can be tamed by using more mag than SBT) and has a full lush sound. Before thinking about brands, make sure a SBT/mag is the combination you want. After you have decided on the dual source combination you want, then start looking at brands and signal chain solutions. One step at a time.
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