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Calling the vintage Fender Strat experts!

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Gimme a few reasons why this is a fake, or is it actually an original '62 Strat?
:confused::cop::confused:

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Gimme a few reasons why this is a fake, or is it actually an original '62 Strat?
:confused::cop::confused: How many Patent numbers on the headstock?

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There are fakes around these days that have fooled genuine experts so I wouldn't be sure either way, especially from photographs.

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There are fakes around these days that have fooled genuine experts so I wouldn't be sure either way, especially from photographs. They aren't terribly difficult to fake really as there's sod all distinctive about them

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They aren't terribly difficult to fake really as there's sod all distinctive about them Indeed so; it's easy enough to get pots with 60's codes, old solder is easy to fake, paint jobs not so easy but do-able to the point where experts come to rely on infallible techniques like 'instinct' to do the appraisal!

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They aren't terribly difficult to fake really as there's sod all distinctive about them Yeah, they're only Fenders after all I suppose. Seriously I could probably tell by the sound, the feel and the resonance in the wood but not by looking from a distance or by looking at pics and even then I wouldn't be totally sure.
I tell you Sean, I've seen fakes that would fool Phil Harris, I kid you not and they are everywhere, even in famous vintage guitar shops.

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I kid you not and they are everywhere, even in famous vintage guitar shops. I know:)

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Everything looks too clean, especially the hardware.

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Everything looks too clean, especially the hardware. No, I've seen one with certified provenance that looks as good if not slightly better than that, albeit in white

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I was screwed on a fake 62 Strat over a year ago. I do not consider myself to be an expert but I claim a lot of knowledge when it comes to vintage Fenders. Everything was perfect, Neck stamp, tuners, clay dots, correct decal w 3 pat. no's on headstock, Pat.pend.-stamped saddles, original nitro oly white w undercoat and nail holes, 'untouched' solder w era correct pots (dates and maker) etc. etc. Deal of a lifetime? Bought it, took it to a real expert, he was fooled too for quite a while complimenting me on the score until......well.....he found out that the thread for the truss rod bolt was metric...fucking metric...on a preCBS Strat!!! Yeah right! it turned out it was a early JV series MIJ reissue Strat made to look like a '62. Seller was AWOL, I was short EUR 2500.-. I put the thing back in the (aftermarket) case, away in a closet and have not looked at it ever since.
If the Strat shown in the OP is for sale, I strongly recommend taking it to an reputable expert first. If you need an adress in Germany, pm me.

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I read that the tortoise pickguard layer shrinks on old guitars and that was a way to tell if it was really old.
By the way, you spent 2500 euros on a '62 strat and you thought it was real?
If someone sold you a diamond ring for a dime, I bet that ring isn't worth ten cents.

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You can pick up 61/62 Strats in England with issues like refrets, rewound pickups, old refinishes etc. for about Ģ5000 ($10,000) which is pretty good if you do a comparison on a Custom Shop guitar that won't be anything like as good and that's from a dealer where you have some comeback on the deal if it turns out to be a fake. They'll sound as good as collector's mint examples too.

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I read that the tortoise pickguard layer shrinks on old guitars and that was a way to tell if it was really old.
By the way, you spent 2500 euros on a '62 strat and you thought it was real?
If someone sold you a diamond ring for a dime, I bet that ring isn't worth ten cents. I am not gonna elaborate on the circumstances, short version only: it seemed to be the equivalent to the lucky pawn shop or lawn sale find. To answer your question: Yes, and again, I know vintage Strats, I collect, buy and sell guitars, especially Strats for almost 25 years and I know the values, I was absolutely certain I had the deal of a lifetime.

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To answer your question: Yes, and again, I know vintage Strats, I collect, buy and sell guitars, especially Strats for almost 25 years and I know the values, I was absolutely certain I had the deal of a lifetime. I have played a couple real vintage pieces and I thought they were very different from my (now-pretty old) re-issue. However, in America, the only way we can tell quality of an item is how much it costs. ;)

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if it's real it's the best condition 62' i've ever seen, but i'm not the biggest vintage fender-head.
probably a re-issue

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You can pick up 61/62 Strats in England with issues like refrets, rewound pickups, old refinishes etc. for about Ģ5000 ($10,000) which is pretty good if you do a comparison on a Custom Shop guitar that won't be anything like as good and that's from a dealer where you have some comeback on the deal if it turns out to be a fake. They'll sound as good as collector's mint examples too. Refret? Check? Rewound pickup? Check. Refinish? Check. Sounds like my 63 ...

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I was screwed on a fake 62 Strat over a year ago. I do not consider myself to be an expert but I claim a lot of knowledge when it comes to vintage Fenders. Everything was perfect, Neck stamp, tuners, clay dots, correct decal w 3 pat. no's on headstock, Pat.pend.-stamped saddles, original nitro oly white w undercoat and nail holes, 'untouched' solder w era correct pots (dates and maker) etc. etc. Deal of a lifetime? Bought it, took it to a real expert, he was fooled too for quite a while complimenting me on the score until......well.....he found out that the thread for the truss rod bolt was metric...fucking metric...on a preCBS Strat!!! Yeah right! it turned out it was a early JV series MIJ reissue Strat made to look like a '62. Seller was AWOL, I was short EUR 2500.-. I put the thing back in the (aftermarket) case, away in a closet and have not looked at it ever since.
If the Strat shown in the OP is for sale, I strongly recommend taking it to an reputable expert first. If you need an adress in Germany, pm me. What kind of JV was it? ST85 or 115 hopefully. So maybe you got ripped off on it but if its a JV chances are its a pretty friggin nice guitar in its own right. Don't forget that at one point fender USA couldn't even make a guitar good enough to compete with that one, so all that was sold in the US was Japanese fenders. And the factory that made those tore apart original fenders to copy them right.
Take that fucker out of the closet and play it. You might just be surprised how nice it is.

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If it is real, it was in a case. There is no color difference between where pickguard was and wasn't.

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Well, I guess itīs a case of
"if itīs too good to be true, it ainīt true"!
Iīll pass!

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Refret? Check? Rewound pickup? Check. Refinish? Check. Sounds like my 63 ... Yours cost a lot less than Ģ5000 csm. You bought at the right time and from one of the most reliable dealers on earth.
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