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Maybe fix the fucking environment while we're at it.
Just go ahead and do the following:
* Increase fuel efficiency standards on all new cars to 30 mpg and/or mandated hybrid vehicles.
* Develop better and more efficient plug-in hybrids to remove emissions from daily commutes.
* Strengthen the power grid by deemphasizing coal and oil burning plants and switch to solar collectors and nuclear power (gasp)
* Mandate that all new housing be required to reduce at least some of it's carbon footprint via-rooftop solar collectors. For the first few years, offer a much higher tax incentive to do so.
We could probably do all of this shit, but the likliehood is that we'll do none of them until it gets to the point we can't afford to even drive to the grocery store. And then we'll think about it, but the Republican's will complain the moeny would be better spent on the military :mad: It's kind of stupid to just sit around hoping that some technology that have zero capital costs :o

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I agree with Angry Grimace 100%.
It'll be a sad day when I have to explain to my grandchildren what a tree was.

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Hydrogen.

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It needs to start with the consumer though. A lot of people who drive SUV's will bitch about gas prices, but still continue to drive the same way. That's what needs to change before industry starts taking notice.
But again, as long as people are willing to get raped at the pump by driving more than they have to in vehichles that consume more than they have to, nothing will change.

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Hydrogen.
Wow that thing is expensive.
For a 3-year lease, it would cost you over $21k just to lease it.

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I agree with Angry Grimace 100%.
It'll be a sad day when I have to explain to my grandchildren what a tree was. Goddamn trees sucking up all the ground water and leeching the nitrogen out of the soil. Then, when a good stong wind blows, they fall over and crush your fense and you have to spend a day off work in the 100 degree heat chopping the bastards up. :mad:
Good riddance, I say. :mad:
:o

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The next 10 years sure will be fun won't they? :(

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Hydrogen.
Except, the vital question: where are you going to get hydrogen from? That's right, by burning coal.
Next technology please.

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It needs to start with the consumer though. A lot of people who drive SUV's will bitch about gas prices, but still continue to drive the same way. That's what needs to change before industry starts taking notice.
But again, as long as people are willing to get raped at the pump by driving more than they have to in vehichles that consume more than they have to, nothing will change. That's the attitude that ensures nothing ever happens; claiming it has to "start" with the consumer; i.e., let's wait until the magic day when there are no investment costs.

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Maybe fix the fucking environment while we're at it.
Just go ahead and do the following:
* Increase fuel efficiency standards on all new cars to 30 mpg and/or mandated hybrid vehicles.
Eh, it's good in theory, but I personally would miss sports cars and stuff. We could do without SUVs rated low though.

* Develop better and more efficient plug-in hybrids to remove emissions from daily commutes.
* Strengthen the power grid by deemphasizing coal and oil burning plants and switch to solar collectors and nuclear power (gasp)
Agreed here.

* Mandate that all new housing be required to reduce at least some of it's carbon footprint via-rooftop solar collectors. For the first few years, offer a much higher tax incentive to do so.
This would be helpful, but I don't think mandating would be possible... too costly/impractical. Providing tax incentives would be good though.

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Don't forget efficient public transportation . . . especially train travel, both short distances and long distances.

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Eh, it's good in theory, but I personally would miss sports cars and stuff. We could do without SUVs rated low though.
Agreed here.
This would be helpful, but I don't think mandating would be possible... too costly/impractical. Providing tax incentives would be good though. They cost about $15,000 to put in...they pay for themselves over long term; and make you a lot less of an asshole. You realize they did a study in San Diego County where they said that they gave the option to home-buyers; but also gave them the option of equally priced granite countertops. I belive only one famiy out of like 50 took the panels.

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Don't forget efficient public transportation . . . especially train travel, both short distances and long distances. Never gonna fly, at least not in America. Without basically changing to Smart Growth, it's a waste of time to even attempt it because American Cities aren't built to sustain public transit; they're designed with sprawling suburbs.

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They cost about $15,000 to put in...they pay for themselves over long term; and make you a lot less of an asshole. You realize they did a study in San Diego County where they said that they gave the option to home-buyers; but also gave them the option of equally priced granite countertops. I belive only one famiy out of like 50 took the panels. I would consider $15,000 expensive for a mandatory addition to a house.

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I would consider $15,000 expensive for a mandatory addition to a house. So what? You're basically paying for a cost that will pay for itself over the period you're paying a mortgage. All you save by not putting a series in is costs up front. Given that buyers can't afford houses in a single payment anyways, it makes literally no sense at all to refuse one.

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Maybe fix the fucking environment while we're at it.
Just go ahead and do the following:
* Increase fuel efficiency standards on all new cars to 30 mpg and/or mandated hybrid vehicles. not high enough. banning the sale of vehicles with a curb weight of 4,000lbs or more would be a good start. you don't need an SUV to drive in the winter, and you don't need one to commute. you want AWD/4WD, buy an Audi, subaru, saab, BMW or M-B, or the host of others that come with them, and pay extra for it. you want a pickup truck? pay the fuel tax you'll cry is too much.
* Develop better and more efficient plug-in hybrids to remove emissions from daily commutes. when are people going to understand electric cars are fucking pointless. its a shift in the carbon footprint. electricity needs to come from somewhere, and around 75% of it in this country comes from burning coal and making steam. why? because it is so fucking cheap. ask the swedes, fins, and norwegians how they like us burning coal, considering we've ruined a whole ass ton of their freshwater areas.
* Strengthen the power grid by deemphasizing coal and oil burning plants and switch to solar collectors and nuclear power (gasp) where do you put the spent nuclear waste we've been accumulating and will continue to accumulate for the next __ years its used? how do you keep spent fuel from getting into the wrong hands? where can we keep it until it completely decays into something that isn't radioactive, sometime in the next millenium? what do we use when the uranium we use for fuel is gone? what's next? AFAIK, nothing, when it's gone, it's gone, and we're back to square one. not to mention that a nuclear reactor hasn't been commissioned in the last 20 years, and the last one that was zoned and ok'd for construction was shut down due to John Q. Public complaining that it was going to mutate their children. eventually the costs of said project escalated into the billions, where it had been slated for completion under the million dollar mark.
* Mandate that all new housing be required to reduce at least some of it's carbon footprint via-rooftop solar collectors. For the first few years, offer a much higher tax incentive to do so. not going to fly. the price of silicon is going through the roof because of this 'boom' and its also a resource we need more of. the efficiency of solar cells is hardly worth the cost of installation, limited life span, and tax breaks for that bullshit. solar hot water is the best use for solar technology right now, and will be until the newest technologies coming out are in full scale production. as it is, there is a huge solar panel installation sitting idly in the desert covering fucking acres of land, and its not powering shit. figure that one out.
We could probably do all of this shit, but the likliehood is that we'll do none of them until it gets to the point we can't afford to even drive to the grocery store. And then we'll think about it, but the Republican's will complain the moeny would be better spent on the military :mad: It's kind of stupid to just sit around hoping that some technology that have zero capital costs :o are you serious? if you've noticed fuel costs in europe, we still don't pay shit for gas, as in less than half what they pay. taxes aren't all of it. and they're far closer to the middle east than we are. quit your whining and get fucking used to it, this shit won't change because no one is willing to advocate for it. it starts with John Q. Public, and he can only bitch about something while demanding the government change something to make his pockets a little less slim, so he can drive his pickup truck to work for 5 miles each way.

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So what? You're basically paying for a cost that will pay for itself over the period you're paying a mortgage. All you save by not putting a series in is costs up front. Given that buyers can't afford houses in a single payment anyways, it makes literally no sense at all to refuse one. you do realize that solar panels stop emitting electricity at about the same time they pay for themselves, right? so who's going to foot the bill for the new ones, that aren't any better than the old ones, but cost 10X more?

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you do realize that solar panels stop emitting electricity at about the same time they pay for themselves, right? so who's going to foot the bill for the new ones, that aren't any better than the old ones, but cost 10X more? hence, why it won't happen. People worry about the money that they could use on granite countertops or kitchen remodels instead. Please link me to something about the Panels' lifespans. That's the first I've heard of it.
Besides, if that's true, that's not an efficient argument AGAINST them. Their overall cost is zero. Who's gonna goot the bill for the new ones? Wat? The same people that bought the first ones, the homeowners. IF they paid for themselves the first time, why wouldn't they the second time?

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That's the attitude that ensures nothing ever happens; claiming it has to "start" with the consumer; i.e., let's wait until the magic day when there are no investment costs. I'm not saying that companies shouldn't make more efficient cars or that investments in alternative power shouldn't me made.
Some companies have taken the first step already though. Toyota, for example, generally makes a lot of fuel effecient cars as well as some hybrids. Most companies have followed suit, but there's still some stragglers (many North American manufacturers).
But... consumer attitudes really do hurt any sort of change. How many people will cry foul that new cars don't have "enough" horsepower?

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I'm not saying that companies shouldn't make more efficient cars or that investments in alternative power shouldn't me made.
Some companies have taken the first step already though. Toyota, for example, generally makes a lot of fuel effecient cars as well as some hybrids. Most companies have followed suit, but there's still some stragglers (many North American manufacturers).
But... consumer attitudes really do hurt any sort of change. How many people will cry foul that new cars don't have "enough" horsepower? I dunno, fuck them. They don't need horsepower. Cars that go from Point A to Point B are fucking good enough. Boo hoo, I can't take my RV out...
The solution to that is: re-classify cars larger than a Silverado as something other htan "light trucks" and create a different set of rules.
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