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Why dont dvd manufacturers make the packages like normal cd pAckaging?
Then both could be piut in the same rack. It seems stupid to make them like the packages for video tapes.
This reminds me of when they started packaging betamac tapes in vhs boxes so they could sell more.
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Yawn.
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Well, i think it's a good point! i wouldn't be running out of space if they were cd sized.
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You'd get them all mixed up with your cds though. This would be my only worry with DVDs in cd packaging.
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Yes but why did he ever think of using large packaging in the first place - when cds first came out they were ina box that fitted and people didnt say they should be the same ide as a n album so why should dvd packages be the same side as a video (not betamac) box?
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Originally posted by Sheryl
Yes but why did he ever think of using large packaging in the first place - when cds first came out they were ina box that fitted and people didnt say they should be the same ide as a n album so why should dvd packages be the same side as a video (not betamac) box? You've answered the question yourself, it's product recognition. Using the same face size as VHS is a visual cue that it's the same kind of product. CD cases break too easily anyway. Note how the Super Jewel DVD case is now history.
You're CD/ALBUM comparison is not really valid, Albums were 12" in diameter, CDs are only 5", plus a decent part of the argument was how "compact" they were, the packaging needed to reflect this. By comparison, DVD boxes are only 7x5 compared to the 5x5 of CD cases.
You already mentioned yourself how betamax boxes crept up to the size ofVHS boxes.
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Originally posted by Mr Nice
Note how the Super Jewel DVD case is now history.
Shame that. :dork:
Originally posted by Sheryl
Yes but why did he ever think of using large packaging in the first place
Who's he? :confused:
I'm glad of one thing though.. And that's PC games have adopted DVD style boxes. Some of them were huge
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Im glad there larger.........
they look cooler and they look diffrent from vcds.......:dork:
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Originally posted by Dave Metcalf
Shame that. :dork:

Who's he? :confused:
I'm glad of one thing though.. And that's PC games have adopted DVD style boxes. Some of them were huge
No. My grandson says he liked the big cardboard boxes of games for his Amstrad. Like Champoins Manager.
"He" is Richard Branston.
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Its also because if they were packaged in jewel cd cases, there would be only a tiny dvd symbol to tell them apart from the films soundtrack CD.
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Originally posted by Sheryl
No. My grandson says he liked the big cardboard boxes of games for his Amstrad. Like Champoins Manager.
"He" is Richard Branston Pickle.
Oh yeah... of course. :lol: :nuts:
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Originally posted by Dave Metcalf
Oh yeah... of course. :lol: :nuts:
Please dont put wordws into my mouth or make up false quotes for me or I will report you.
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erm... ok then. :wave: :nuts:
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Early R1 releases from Universal were indeed packaged in CD jewel cases (I still have 'Backdraft' as such).
They didn't sell (as far as I know).
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I liek cheese.
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Ambulance please.
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Originally posted by Sheryl
Please dont put wordws into my mouth or make up false quotes for me or I will report you.
ehhh... would you be smoking a crack pipe? :nuts: :dork:
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Is misquoting a bannable offence then? :D
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CD's used to be packaged in big cardboard boxes in the USA, about 10" x 5" with the Jewel Case inside, cos they like things bigger I guess?
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Originally posted by paul_caygill
I am ghey
Dunno mate but we'll soon find out :D
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Originally posted by DamienB
Dunno mate but we'll soon find out :D :| :D
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its no laughing matter to falsely attribute statements to others - its being the subject of hundreds of court cases.
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Originally posted by Sheryl
its no laughing matter to falsely attribute statements to others - its being the subject of hundreds of court cases.
:lol:
You see what I did there?
Laughing matter?
Quotes?
I laughed?
I'm wasted here:mad:
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How come you know so much about championship manager's packaging Sheryl? Are you a retired porn loving gamer?
:suspect:
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I bouhgt it for my grandson 4.5 years ago.
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Good memory :p :suspect:
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I like the current style of DVD cases. However, for games I despise them, and would prefer cardboard boxes.
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Originally posted by Whiggles
I I despise them, and would prefer cardboard boxes.
Thats what the dirty tramps and pikeys say when they are offered shelter and council flats...
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Hermes? What did they tell you about sockpuppetry?
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Originally posted by Sheryl
Thats what the dirty tramps and pikeys say when they are offered shelter and council flats... Well, given the choice between a little plastic container and a big cardboard box to live in, I know what I'd choose. :D
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but i like DVD packaging. :dork:
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I don't see why they don't sell them in little shoe polish type tins like the total recall thing. Imagine that!
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All my gash films are stored in cd holders.
Who needs covers and big cases. :)
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The DVD Forum (not this one, but the one that specifies the standards for DVDs) does not permit DVDs to be distributed in CD sized cases. Their argument at the time was one of recognition, not least because when DVDs are sold, they need to be easily distinguishable from CDs on the shelves.
That's the plain and simple truth of the matter :)
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Originally posted by Squirrel God
The DVD Forum (not this one, but the one that specifies the standards for DVDs) does not permit DVDs to be distributed in CD sized cases. Their argument at the time was one of recognition, not least because when DVDs are sold, they need to be easily distinguishable from CDs on the shelves.
That's the plain and simple truth of the matter :)
so why do i have a load of dvds in cd cases then? for instance scream directors cut from japan.
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Originally posted by danielzavitz
so why do i have a load of dvds in cd cases then? for instance scream directors cut from japan.
Are you sure they are CD cases and not another case that just looks like a CD case but is a slightly different shape? And is the case the entire package, or is the case placed in something else? If it is indeed a CD case and that CD case is all there is to the packaging, it is either an anomaly or an illegality or the DVD Forum have relaxed their ruling - I know not which.
But what I said above was definitely the case when the DVD standard was first certified, hence why I used the words "their argument at the time". Some of the early DVDs were distributed in DVD-sized jewel cases as a result. It's this early ruling that leaves us with a legacy/habit (call it what you will) of larger cases for DVDs.
Maybe someone else can confirm what the current situation with the DVD Forum is. I'm certainly not paying their fee to read the latest standard documents :D
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Originally posted by Squirrel God
Are you sure they are CD cases and not another case that just looks like a CD case but is a slightly different shape? And is the case the entire package, or is the case placed in something else? If it is indeed a CD case and that CD case is all there is to the packaging, it is either an anomaly or an illegality or the DVD Forum have relaxed their ruling - I know not which.My Scream director's cut is definitely in a CD jewel case, although I understand that it has now been re-released in either a standard DVD case, or that slightly smaller, thinner variant that seems to be taking off in Japan.
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Like Amarays a lot but also quite keen on DVD AUDIO size cases. OK they are jewel like but they are quite nice:wave:
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Originally posted by Whiggles
I like the current style of DVD cases. However, for games I despise them, and would prefer cardboard boxes.
Nah. I throw all my cardboard game boxes away and keep the manuals seperate cause they take up too much space. DVD cases are just right to hold a CD and a manual - so I get to keep 'em :)
Originally posted by Whiggles
that slightly smaller, thinner variant that seems to be taking off in Japan.
That would be good. Height isn't a problem to me as I keep mine in a book case (or 2!) but width is bad as I keep filling the bookcases up! Thin cases are definately whats needed.
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Originally posted by target
That would be good. Height isn't a problem to me as I keep mine in a book case (or 2!) but width is bad as I keep filling the bookcases up! Thin cases are definately whats needed. I'd be really annoyed if those thin ones became the standard. I really hate it when they change a standard in the middle of a format's run. The current DVD cases work fine -- I see no reason change them. I'd also have to replace my DVD racks. :mad:
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Thinner = better as far as I'm concerned. I have now exceeded 500 DVDs and storage space is becoming a problem.
On the subject of racks, I've always found them useless anyway since they never accommodate digipacks or boxsets and thus ruin my tidy alphanumerical ordering system.
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Originally posted by Squirrel God
Thinner = better as far as I'm concerned. I have now exceeded 500 DVDs and storage space is becoming a problem.
On the subject of racks, I've always found them useless anyway since they never accommodate digipacks or boxsets and thus ruin my tidy alphanumerical ordering system.
Squirrel God - you're a man after my own heart!!:thumbs:
Couldn't agree more
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Nothing wrong with having a nice rack. :norty:
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I believe there is a website that goes under the name of Rate My Rack. I couldn't possibly post the link though as it's a naughty, naughty site/sight :eek:
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Thinner would be all very well if they had started off like that. The point is that amaray-size cases are the standard now, and to change it at this stage would be very inadvisable in my opinion. Besides, the newer Japanese cases are thin to the point that you couldn't even fit a logo on the spine. Imagine trying to find the DVD you were looking for in a collection of 500 or so when you couldn't even tell which was which by looking at the spine.
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Originally posted by Whiggles
Besides, the newer Japanese cases are thin to the point that you couldn't even fit a logo on the spine. Imagine trying to find the DVD you were looking for in a collection of 500 or so when you couldn't even tell which was which by looking at the spine.
Great! No more problems deciding which movie to watch - just pick at random and off you go :p
No seriously, if you can't read the spine that's terrible :oh-hum: I think the thinness of the DVD jewel case is just perfect. It's about 2/3rds of the width of a snapper.
As is the case with women, I like them thin but not too thin (Calista Flockhart take note), and if I can't read their spines, how am I supposed to know their name? :lol:
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How did we manage with laserdiscs, then? They were quite thin as far as I recall?
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Originally posted by KRW
How did we manage with laserdiscs, then? They were quite thin as far as I recall? Well most people just managed without the laserdiscs as far as I recall:D.
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Are those my feet? :confused:
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Kippa - you've confused the hell out of me!
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Originally posted by Mr Nice
Well most people just managed without the laserdiscs as far as I recall:D.
:D that's probably why they failed then! Too big a collection and it becomes impossible to find the films. No point in having them.
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christ i for one think current amarays are just fine, my only complaint are the slightly cheaper verions the big studios are using, with that crappy three way disc holder thing that hurts my thumb everytime i take the DVD out.. if every amaray had one of those push and lock holders i've seen on some discs, then i for one couldn't complain.
THINNER?!!! why!! so what your bookshelf is too small, so you want to completely take away any aesthetic appeal DVD spines offer, and make them even harder to recognise while all rowed up, especially for strangers.. and imagine the trouble some retailers will have!!
Also the current Amaray case leaves enough room to protect the disc, CD jewel cases have the potential to damage the CD when dropped, at least the extra size of amarays can take some of the forces exerted on it.
Plus wouldn't movie covers look silly on a CD insert shaped cover?? yeah they do, just look at any VCD case, then compare it to a DVD! The current DVD packaging i think has a lot to do with the big DVD boom, they are just the right size.. the only reason people are complaining is because it doesn't suit their bookshelves etc... when you get too big for your clothes, don't you buy new ones??? treat your DVDs like you would treat yourselves, they are more important than you!!! :help:
Amarays Rule!!! :dork: :dork: :dork:
:)
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Originally posted by tj_director
THINNER?!!! why!! so what your bookshelf is too small, so you want to completely take away any aesthetic appeal DVD spines offer, and make them even harder to recognise while all rowed up, especially for strangers.. and imagine the trouble some retailers will have!!
Don't care about high street retailers. I buy everything on-line.
Don't care how they look on shelf. I use a DVD Profiler report print out to find what I want. I have to double up the DVDs on the shelves or I'd never fit them all in, so half my DVDs have their spines hidden anyway. They're in alphanumerical order, so I can find what I want in an instant :)
Originally posted by tj_director
Also the current Amaray case leaves enough room to protect the disc, CD jewel cases have the potential to damage the CD when dropped, at least the extra size of amarays can take some of the forces exerted on it.
Amarays are prone to the disk coming loose in transit. No such problem with CD (jewel) cases ;)
Originally posted by tj_director
Plus wouldn't movie covers look silly on a CD insert shaped cover?? yeah they do, just look at any VCD case, then compare it to a DVD!
Yes, I'm with you here. I for one would NOT like to see CD sized cases, not least because we'd end up with no decent booklets inside some. DVD jewel cases are a perfect compromise. Let's bring them back. Death to the Amaray :clap: :clap: :lol: :lol:
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Originally posted by Squirrel God
Amarays are prone to the disk coming loose in transit. No such problem with CD (jewel) cases ;)

very true, but the push and lock type holders i mentioned get rid of this problem it seems, they also make removing the DVD a doddle, and actually kinda satisfying in a geeky sort of way. But i think they may be more costly so they aren't used as frequently, but they should, especially in "Special Collector's Editions".. also where will those nice collectable leaflets and stupid coupons sit in the thinner packaging?? :rolleyes:
folks like yourself Squirrel God who go to the trouble of Profiler, then printing out collection lists etc.. could also i imagine go to the hassle of making your own user-friendly packagaing as well right?? i don't know how the common joe paying full retail at HMV will feel having to think past the notion that his DVD collection will need to be put in some sensible order!! :lol: :D
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Yeah, I like those holders you mention. More common on R4s, have quite a few of them.
Would not make my own packaging, no! Would look like a bad Tony Hart jobby :lol:
Sod the people who buy disks from HMV. It's their own fault for doing that :| Why should we suffer just because they can't get a bit of order in their lives? If they only own a few DVDs too, then I don't see why their opinion matters. Surely the more DVDs you own, the more your opinion counts :D
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Originally posted by Squirrel God
DVD jewel cases are a perfect compromise. Let's bring them back
:nono:
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I like DVD covers and am glad PC and all console games are now released in similar DVD sized cases, they're perfect, fit a nice standard book size booklet/insert, comfortable to hold, good width for spine reading, etc.
Sheryl should take a chill pill. Oh wait, she has a grand-daughter, maybe she took too much in the 70s. You know what, better lay off pills completely. :D
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Funniest thread i read in the movie forum in ages. :D
Mis-quoting?, re-birth of Jewel cases? :suspect:
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Okay, so we keep the Amaray cases and try to get rid of the uh... Warner clip cases. I have a separate bloody drawer for the things cause they don't fit on the shelf. Oh, and i hate the double-disc 'extra large' cases, as used in the Criterion edition of The Rock, or Highlander: Endgame R1 etc...
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Originally posted by HighlanderTM
Okay, so we keep the Amaray cases and try to get rid of the uh... Warner clip cases. I have a separate bloody drawer for the things cause they don't fit on the shelf. Oh, and i hate the double-disc 'extra large' cases, as used in the Criterion edition of The Rock, or Highlander: Endgame R1 etc... Can't say fairer than that. Although I'm not too bothered about the extra large cases -- I don't have many of them so it's not a massive problem. Stuff like the 3-disc R0 Suspiria is actually quite nice due to the very fact that the case is massive.
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Originally posted by Whiggles
Stuff like the 3-disc R0 Suspiria is actually quite nice due to the very fact that the case is massive.
and it a lot better than a digipak
Whats everyones view of the new dvd cases that the R1 Family Guy uses. Card sleeve with 4 half size dvd cases.